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		<title>By: MCO</title>
		<link>http://www.miamirealestateblog.com/sunny-isles-beach-condos/jade-ocean-condos/comment-page-1/#comment-2749</link>
		<dc:creator>MCO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 14:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry, typo mistake. I meant tower III.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry, typo mistake. I meant tower III.</p>
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		<title>By: Samir at MiamiCondoRealty.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Samir at MiamiCondoRealty.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 21:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Disadvantage in Tower II? Not really besides the higher pricing. Keep in mind that Tower II would have been presold after Tower I. So the prices were slightly higher to begin with. Also Tower II floorplans are larger than Tower I in the 1 bedrooms. So your one bedrooms will be priced higher. However I think Tower II also has some of the best views available in ICON. So they should be comparatively higher. Maintenance in Tower I and II is currently 52 cents per foot. Tower III is 67 cents per foot. The major differences are that Tower I and II offer one assigned parking space and second space through valet. Tower III is offers only valet parking. Tower III also has looser rental restrictions. Tower I and II can only be leased for minimum term of 6 months. Also the Hotel should have minimal impact on the building. There is a seperate lobby for the hotel portion and the condo portion of Tower III. Also it is not a cheap hotel so should have quality guests. And it also adds a nice ambiance to the pool area. Since the hotel guest are using the pool area the building actually looks active. Keep in mind that the hotel is also roughly 150 units.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Disadvantage in Tower II? Not really besides the higher pricing. Keep in mind that Tower II would have been presold after Tower I. So the prices were slightly higher to begin with. Also Tower II floorplans are larger than Tower I in the 1 bedrooms. So your one bedrooms will be priced higher. However I think Tower II also has some of the best views available in ICON. So they should be comparatively higher. Maintenance in Tower I and II is currently 52 cents per foot. Tower III is 67 cents per foot. The major differences are that Tower I and II offer one assigned parking space and second space through valet. Tower III is offers only valet parking. Tower III also has looser rental restrictions. Tower I and II can only be leased for minimum term of 6 months. Also the Hotel should have minimal impact on the building. There is a seperate lobby for the hotel portion and the condo portion of Tower III. Also it is not a cheap hotel so should have quality guests. And it also adds a nice ambiance to the pool area. Since the hotel guest are using the pool area the building actually looks active. Keep in mind that the hotel is also roughly 150 units.</p>
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		<title>By: MCO</title>
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		<dc:creator>MCO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 21:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for your very thorough answer.&lt;br&gt;Do you see any disadvantage in buying at tower II? I know the owners now are different, but that is the only explanation in difference in prices?&lt;br&gt;People are also concerned as to what the maintenance may be in a hotel tower and all the traffic they get because of club 50.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your very thorough answer.<br />Do you see any disadvantage in buying at tower II? I know the owners now are different, but that is the only explanation in difference in prices?<br />People are also concerned as to what the maintenance may be in a hotel tower and all the traffic they get because of club 50.</p>
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		<title>By: Samir at MiamiCondoRealty.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Samir at MiamiCondoRealty.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 17:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MCO - I do like ICON Brickell very much. The first time I went there I didn&#039;t like the lobby much but realize that if I were a resident there, I probably would rarely walk through the lobby, (since you would be entering the garage and straight to the unit from there).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think the issue that you see with the pricing is what many people will see when they first look at the pricing. The pricing at ICON Brickell is more complicated than you would expect. For sure there are not 100% occupied units in Tower 1 but keep in mind that there is limited inventory. How does that work? Well in pre-construction the building was sold out. So until they know an original buyer is 100% not going to close they can not offer to sell again that apartment. So in the interim what has happened is that the developer has rented out a few apartments, resold some apartments, and some they have pending to close with new buyers and original buyers who agreed to the price cuts.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Expect the official closing numbers in all 3 towers together close to 200-300 units at this time. But keep in mind that tower 3 only recently opened. And prices were only slashed in December. Since December the closings have rapidly been moving along. Not blazing fast but definite improvement.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regarding the pricing again - what happened is this: When the building originally sold you would have had multiple levels of pricing. Example - Before the sales center opens type pricing, where friends and family are typically sold apartments, or brokers notify their past clients and offer them discounted pricing. Then you have the official opening type pricing, then towards the end of the project sales you may have the increased pricing. So when they recently cut 30% in tower 1. They just went across the board. You will find that you may find an apartment on a higher floor for less price then one on a lower floor. How does that happen? Well the apartment on the higher floor may have been contracted at an earlier date originally. So when the 30% was applied to that one it is an incredible deal. When it is applied to a unit which probably sold towards the end of original sales it is not as great a deal. Understand? Do I think the prices will drop more? It&#039;s possible but on the prices which were toward the end of original sales. I don&#039;t think much on the ones at the very begining of sales.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MCO &#8211; I do like ICON Brickell very much. The first time I went there I didn&#39;t like the lobby much but realize that if I were a resident there, I probably would rarely walk through the lobby, (since you would be entering the garage and straight to the unit from there).</p>
<p>I think the issue that you see with the pricing is what many people will see when they first look at the pricing. The pricing at ICON Brickell is more complicated than you would expect. For sure there are not 100% occupied units in Tower 1 but keep in mind that there is limited inventory. How does that work? Well in pre-construction the building was sold out. So until they know an original buyer is 100% not going to close they can not offer to sell again that apartment. So in the interim what has happened is that the developer has rented out a few apartments, resold some apartments, and some they have pending to close with new buyers and original buyers who agreed to the price cuts.</p>
<p>Expect the official closing numbers in all 3 towers together close to 200-300 units at this time. But keep in mind that tower 3 only recently opened. And prices were only slashed in December. Since December the closings have rapidly been moving along. Not blazing fast but definite improvement.</p>
<p>Regarding the pricing again &#8211; what happened is this: When the building originally sold you would have had multiple levels of pricing. Example &#8211; Before the sales center opens type pricing, where friends and family are typically sold apartments, or brokers notify their past clients and offer them discounted pricing. Then you have the official opening type pricing, then towards the end of the project sales you may have the increased pricing. So when they recently cut 30% in tower 1. They just went across the board. You will find that you may find an apartment on a higher floor for less price then one on a lower floor. How does that happen? Well the apartment on the higher floor may have been contracted at an earlier date originally. So when the 30% was applied to that one it is an incredible deal. When it is applied to a unit which probably sold towards the end of original sales it is not as great a deal. Understand? Do I think the prices will drop more? It&#39;s possible but on the prices which were toward the end of original sales. I don&#39;t think much on the ones at the very begining of sales.</p>
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		<title>By: MCO</title>
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		<dc:creator>MCO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 14:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Samir,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you dont mind giving me some insider&#039;s scoop, I would like to know about Icon Brickell. I know it is not a building for everyone but I do like the concept. &lt;br&gt;I am aware they have slashed the prices in half at the viceroy and by 30% at towers I and II, but the units still seem overpriced to me considering the market nowadays. &lt;br&gt;I have also driven by at night and even though the sales office keeps advocating that tower I is sold out and they are working on tower II now, I know that is not true. Yhe bulding is pitch black at night. If there were like 50 units with the lights on in the 3 towers that woulld be an overestimation.&lt;br&gt;Do you have any info on the building? How likely do you think they will drop their prices more?&lt;br&gt;Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Samir,</p>
<p>If you dont mind giving me some insider&#39;s scoop, I would like to know about Icon Brickell. I know it is not a building for everyone but I do like the concept. <br />I am aware they have slashed the prices in half at the viceroy and by 30% at towers I and II, but the units still seem overpriced to me considering the market nowadays. <br />I have also driven by at night and even though the sales office keeps advocating that tower I is sold out and they are working on tower II now, I know that is not true. Yhe bulding is pitch black at night. If there were like 50 units with the lights on in the 3 towers that woulld be an overestimation.<br />Do you have any info on the building? How likely do you think they will drop their prices more?<br />Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Samir at MiamiCondoRealty.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Samir at MiamiCondoRealty.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 04:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hang in there MCO! I&#039;ve been pre-occupied with showings and marketing. I am a Real Estate Broker after all. Great deals around town for buyers looking for luxury condos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hang in there MCO! I&#39;ve been pre-occupied with showings and marketing. I am a Real Estate Broker after all. Great deals around town for buyers looking for luxury condos.</p>
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		<title>By: MCO</title>
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		<dc:creator>MCO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 16:50:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s going on Samir?? No more posts???&lt;br&gt;Please come back to your blog!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#39;s going on Samir?? No more posts???<br />Please come back to your blog!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: MCO</title>
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		<dc:creator>MCO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 20:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Samir,&lt;br&gt;C&#039;m&#039;on! we miss your blog!!&lt;br&gt;Haven&#039;t posted anything new since October!&lt;br&gt;We enjoy your work!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Samir,<br />C&#39;m&#39;on! we miss your blog!!<br />Haven&#39;t posted anything new since October!<br />We enjoy your work!!</p>
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		<title>By: Samir at MiamiCondoRealty.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Samir at MiamiCondoRealty.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 03:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hang on MCO. I expect to have a big closing in a week then will be taking much needed time off in which I will focus better on providing more content for this blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hang on MCO. I expect to have a big closing in a week then will be taking much needed time off in which I will focus better on providing more content for this blog.</p>
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		<title>By: MCO</title>
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		<dc:creator>MCO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 02:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey samir&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So sad to see you have abandoned your website. Hope this means lots of work for you.&lt;br&gt;Waiting for new posts.&lt;br&gt;No one puts up a nice blog like you.</description>
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<p>So sad to see you have abandoned your website. Hope this means lots of work for you.<br />Waiting for new posts.<br />No one puts up a nice blog like you.</p>
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